The Elites

When I came up with the name ‘Elites’, it was with tongue in cheek. In fact, I was thinking of the antonyms of ‘elite’…

FROM: http://www.answers.com/topic/elite?cat=technology
Antonyms: common, low-class, lower, lower-class, ordinary, poor, worst…

So, it tickled my soul that they took too the name!

Sure enough, in the time the Elites have been the Elites, they have certainly been common, low class, and the worst.

They have ‘raked me (and many others) over the coals’ on air, times after time, projecting their values upon me. The language and sentiments; such gentlemen!

Recently, Ben Gardner kd7bcw, sent me this email:

The above is humorous. (And I know Ben thought so also) I claim ‘sarcasm’ as a personal trait. It is part of being a survivor, and a writer. It is still one more trait I have cultured and encouraged in myself. I am not ashamed of it, nor embarrassed by it. I do not care who knows that I am sarcastic. I am NOT looking for ‘relief’ from this trait.

On the other hand, the 'core group' of Elites, (a very small group because many Hams will no longer have anything to do with them), composed of white, affluent, old males, should be ashamed and embarrassed with THEMSELVES. Comprised of drunks, egomaniacs, the lonely, fanatics and hangers-on of Art Bell and his money, and dirty (figuratively & literally) old men, they could use some self-examination.

From: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dirty+old+man

1.
dirty old man


An elderly man that dreams of screwing women between the ages of 15-35, or women who look like they're 15-35. Often stare at their young flesh. They often try to score with them. Usually have to settle with porn or elderly women, unless they are very rich ( check sugar daddy)


2.
dirty old man


A man over the age of 50 who really does screw young women of 25 and younger. Some young women have a secret sexual fixation on much older men and enjoy being 'used' by 'Daddy'. Others appreciate the insight and experience an older man can bring, and how he can groom them. Still others see it as an opportunity to acquire material positions they either could not or would not acquire from a younger man.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dirty+old+man
Noun
1.
dirty old man - a middle-aged man with lecherous inclinations
middle-aged man - a man who is roughly between 45 and 65 years old

They claim the common interest of Amateur Radio. I contend this group of uncouth, dirty old men, would have gravitated to each other in any situation, if for no other reason than to reach out and touch some of Art Bell’s w6obb’s money, and approval, to help fund their prurient interests. Among other things…

I used to respect these men, not so any more! (Many other people have reported the same reaction) In fact, I can find no redeeming actions either as individuals or as a group here.
They are quickly falling to their lowest denominator. I have nothing but disgust for the majority of the ‘Elites’.

Perhaps instead of giving up smoking, they should take up: meditation, church, good deeds, AA, a shrink, or prayers!

I feel sorry for the ‘slap of truth’ that any new SWL will be hit with as they come to grips with the immorality, selfishness, profanity (ki6gu), drunkenness, repressed rage, uneducated, ego-centric, and amazingly judgmental, Elites!

HamStreams Gone!

Well that didn't last long! Perhaps the idea was good, but there were too few willing to participate in a non-political site (or was it?). Maybe the timing of HamStreams was off; perhaps it would have 'made it' three or five years ago...

My own hopes for HamStreams was that we would get more Hams streaming audio. That could still be in Jim Southwick n7js, future, or so a lot of us hope!

At any rate, n7js has his reasons, which he goes into in depth. There is much to cogitate on in his 'closing statement' below. Your own comments on this are, of course, welcome!

April 20, 2008 (A letter to myself):

I've given this a lot of thought and watched quite a bit of history with this group. I've had things shared with me - some that is public and some that may never be made public. This too has helped with this decision. No, no one pressured me into anything. I feel it is in my best interests to get back to basics - which was being part of a site created with a sole interest to explore various creative endeavors of the marriage between radio and computer or other creative related endeavors. That is, my original site JimandLeah.Com. It was devoid of personalities obviously (other than myself) and therefore politics, attacks, direct influences (good and bad), which allowed me to explore and express without the need to worry about pleasing or offending others based on the fickleness of their own loyalties (which seems to change with the wind or their last fart). If somehow, someone is deriving some sense of importance from associations or hierarchy as relating to ham radio (it's a hobby!) - then obviously they have something missing in the old internal department. If associations somehow motivate you to be a better human being or hell, write you a paycheck - I could see it. Otherwise, that stuff is far too adolescent for me on an ongoing basis except if maybe I have a dozen beers and feel like masturbating my ego and winding up the most aberrant parts of my unconscious. Mind you, I'm human and like to occasionally engage in that, but my psyche (and my body) can only sustain that 2 or 3 weeks out of the year. Far too little to play in a major role in a theater of the absurd if I desired it in the first place. The themes of either you are "with us or against us" rubs completely against my constitution. The themes of constant attack and/or obsession also runs counter. I realize by the recent site I created (hamstreams.com) - it became somewhat of another conduit for expressing the very bullshit of any other site based on personalities....worse in some ways. I combined what seems to now be a multi-forum of hate that probably helps feed more hate vicarously in private little conversations, chats, PM's, etc. What the hell was I thinking? What I was thinking was I could try to bridge a path between the various facets of personalities (hence my theme of Saints and Assholes). I thought maybe I could combine something into an area of provoking rants, disagreements, agreements, stated positions, defense of positions, expression of differences, commonalities, and hence introspection visually, auditorally, and verbally due to the openess and concept of the site. What I didn't realize was I was trying to do it with an invitation to a large percentage of people who think in black and white redneck realities. What an idealistic joke. I must have been out of my mind. I now realize they are all doomed (in a philosophical sense) unless you can somehow inject a large percentage that categorically reject that thinking AND have loose and non-need associations with each other. It works, because I run another one with 100 times the people here and I've ran it for years. As I see it, it ain't happening w/ this crowd. These sites (if they are interactive in any way and with the make up of personalities) - eventually degrade to the lowest common denominator of attacks or else they become a milk toast place of sycophants and alpha males looking for validation of shallowness and abnormalities. It's completely predictable. If I ever go for my Doctorate in Psychology, I swear to God I'm going to do my thesis on this. So here it is as I see it - I don't want to be placed in either of these categories with direct associations and hence the accompanying pressure of a group mentality. It's a pathetic road when you view it objectively and unfortunately I haven't always done that. I catch myself at times feeling the pull of useless importance. I don't want to be pigeon holed...therefore allowing me to talk to anyone and be part of no one. I realize this will cause some people not to want to talk to me who fit the descriptions above. Therefore I am deleting HamStreams.Com. It will simply forward to my original site in a few days. I have asked Greg W6EZV to remove my cam spot from his site. I have asked Scotty K7MIX to remove my spot and image on elitehams. Now what about Paul's site? Paul's ham cam site is actually a "static" site and basically low on interactivity. In addition, the base is now diverse enough to dilute the major parts of aberration (see above). At one time, I did request to be pulled based on a theme that was going on that I considered embarrassing on a whole, but I didn't want to hurt feelings and come right out and say it. I actually currently consider Paul's site quite good based on his evolving approach (and thankfully the evolving approach of pics) so it doesn't feel stifling to belong there. Hopefully he will avoid the pitfalls but it requires autonomy and being counter-intuitive. This isn't an attempt at burning bridges, but an attempt not to see them all burned eventually. So having said all of this, I realize many of you don't give a damn, and now I don't have to give a damn whether you do or not. Talk to you on the radio and if not.....wavin the bird at ya.

Jim

Status of my Password to the Elites New Chat!

AN ADDENDUM:
The reply I got from the Elites on politely requesting a password!

I sent: "Password to the new Chat Please"

I got: From: K7MIX [mailto:k7mix@cox.net] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:59 PMTo: hamfanz@cox.netSubject: Re: Password To the New Chat Room Please! After all the vile crap that you have written about the group, you can't be serious! ----- Original Message ----- From: HamFanz To: k7mix@cox.net Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Password To the New Chat Room Please! email: HamFanz@cox.net HamFanz web site: http://www.hamfanz.com/ HamFanz List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HamFanz/ HamFanz Blog: http://Hamfanz.blogspot.com/

I Sent:
Yes, I am serious. I am requesting a password to the Elites (which I named, BTW) new chat site. Just as u were serious when u sent me the 'parodies' of Billy that u did...From: K7MIX [mailto:k7mix@cox.net] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:59 PMTo: hamfanz@cox.netSubject: Re: Password To the New Chat Room Please!After all the vile crap that you have written about the group, you can't be serious! ----- Original Message ----- From: HamFanz To: k7mix@cox.net Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:18 AMSubject: Password To the New Chat Room Please!email: HamFanz@cox.netHamFanz web site: http://www.hamfanz.com/HamFanz List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HamFanz/HamFanz Blog: http://Hamfanz.blogspot.com/

I got:
You do in fact have a lot of nerve! The whole reason for the creation of this site is for decent people, including ART BELL to escape malignant sewage sites that you and others seem to thrive on. What is it with you, Billy and the wingnut anyway? You're all shit magnets who get off insulting and putting folks down, while you stay perched on your pedestals, thinking that you're something special in the world. Well you're not. You're all pathetic individuals who really need to get a life and find a new hobby other than insulting people day after day after day. The 3.830 group minds their own business and tries to have fun, avoiding trouble and confrontation, yet jammers, ugly blogs and poisonous chat rooms are always on the attack no matter what. Oh, and by the way, you can have a password just as soon as I give one to wingnut and Crowell. Have a nice day!

I AM having a nice day, as k7mix just showed the WORLD how decent he and the Elites really ARE, which was the entire point of me requesting a password. He even admits the site/chat was created to 'shield' artie from HORRIBLE folks like the rest of us! He isn't too bright is he???

And Lastly:
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Thanks for posting my email. Why didn't you post it in its entirety? Completely typical of how you operate.

By the way, I'm living in the lap of luxury, 750K home, beautiful wife, and all the rest. I understand that you're all alone and living on welfare. Gee, I wonder who the bright one is here?

Gee, I wonder who the bright one is? Not that it's a question I brought up, but since k7mix did.....

BTW, k7mix is correct though, I inadvertantly left off the last paragraph of his email. Here it is:

PS. I don't have my nose up Art's ass. As a matter of fact, we happen to be friends, if you can possibly comprehend that scenario. Both Syndee and myself have spent time with Art and his wife, and find them both to be very happy with each other along with a beautiful baby. Why don't you direct your hateful opinions and nasty commentaries toward someone who is really deserving of such attention, such as the wingnut or Crowell. You might also consider buying a mirror, and take a real hard look at it. I don't think you're going to like what you see!

So there it is folks, did that enlighten you any? Really 'decent people' huh?

And I'm certainly glad, that in this last, unsolicited email (uhh, would that be spam?) that k7mix gave me permission to use email addressed to me, by me, as it is a 'right' I already had...

The Elites New Chat Room is Open!

Turns out the Elites are using ParaChat, which I tried out over a year ago, and found to be 'vexing' at best...

According to the above pic, The Gatekeeper has 112 emails. He says, all are applying for a password. Now we don't know that to be the case, but if so, perhaps artie should be bemoaning his lowered fan base!

At any rate, I think EVERYONE should email the 'gatekeeper', requesting a password to the NEW Elites Chat (which will only hold 50 people-so you had better hurry!). I applied for mine!

The Elite Chat Gatekeeper: k7mix@cox.net

Then return here to post a comment here as to your results, yea or nay!

The Elites New Web Site

Is it going to be functional this year? I mean, HOW many hams does it take to build a website? (Rather reminds you of those old ‘light bulb’ jokes, yes?).

The fact is, their website www.elitehams.com is up, (Bringing Fun Back to Ham Radio) if not yet ‘announced’ or open to the public yet.

Note that they have formally taken the name I gave them and they derisively ‘put down’ night after night after night!

Elite Hams, Produced by k7Mix and designed by synsyn creations, looks slick, but I don't see anything there that isn't on Steve Wingate's w6txh, site i.e. a lightening map, a photo album, links to the receivers, etc. But I guess that as long as it pleases artie...

What they do with this site, and how they maintain it, remains to be seen. With luck, SWL's will be in for a 'ride'.

Trish Ray k4ze Visits the Elites Bringing UFO’s!

It was so good hearing Trish on with the Elites last night. As far as I know, it has been a long time.

Received well by all the Elite regulars, Trish stayed and chatted for a little over an hour. Since she lives in Tennessee, she must have stayed up very late, or gotten up really early. She is another night person though…

I thought she added greatly to the Elites’ configuration. Hope she comes back often!

Here is an audio clip from Trish k4ze last night, for 3 full recordings, visit the Secret Page!

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/22/1450734/2008.04.09_Elites-k4zeUFO.mp3

Chats, Chats, and more Chats

You could easily spend an hour going though all the current chat sites, see many duplicate pics, read many cross-posted comments, and you would have probably wasted your time.

Newest on the roster is (within the past week), Jim Southwick’s n7js HAMSTREAMS http://www.hamstreams.com/ with 10 picture slots and a chat. Jim seemed sure that all ten slots would go ‘to the first takers’ quickly. But there are reports of folks being turned down for picture slots, and as of this writing, there are still two slots available. Lower on the page is HAMSTREAMS ‘one stop chat center’ containing the HamStreams chat, followed by duplicates of w6ezv Greg Sousa’s chat, then Steve Wingate’s k6txh chat. (Though Jim Southwick has protested mightily that HIS site ‘will not be ruled by ham politics’ – notice that HamFanz chat is not there, though I would not have given permission had I been asked. There are also ‘reports’ that Jim felt ‘pressured’ into doing this site. If that is not politics, what is?). I am hoping that this site will eventually stream a LOT of audio, something Jim is so very good at doing.

Almost in the same 24 hours, Greg Souse w6ezv, set up a site and a chat at http://webpages.charter.net/burbank_station/. Unfortunately, all HE did was COPY the defunct 3840aa or Sawyers LateNightHams page. After several days, he has not yet bothered (or figured out how?) to delete all the dead links. (did he get Sawyer’s permission for this ‘copy’?).

Which takes us to 3840aa which was turned into LateNightHams by Sawyer, we assume at Art Bells request, so his ‘phone patch’ callers would have a place to gather and converse. (Here’s what some of the Little Peeps think of the phone patch: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/22/1450734/2008.04.02_LittlePeepsChatRooms.mp3) There was MUCH brouhaha over the sudden demise of LateNiteHams site. With Art Bell saying that it was Sawyer (who on 3.27.08 posted this statement on the closed site, “This is not fun for me anymore, So I'm done with latenighthams.com. 'Sawyer' ”. Art Bell sent me copies of the emails Sawyer sent to him regarding closing the site. Sawyer himself verified that he had sent the emails to Art Bell. Oddly enough though, neither Sawyer nor Greg Sousa replied when asked for further comments. While I do not doubt for a moment, that Sawyer chose to take down LateNiteHams (Sawyer is not known for his ‘staying power’); I also do not doubt that there is a ‘story’ behind this ‘story’, that we are not hearing. This does not even touch on some of the ‘comments’ posted on the LateNightHams chat before it closed by SOMEONE with the nic ‘Art’; comments such as: 1) Art Thu 16:35 ...This chat, like on air has turned to poison my guess is it's days are about up. Bye”, and 2) Art Thu 20:49 ...This chat and that site are going down because of people like Greg, Billy, Wingnut and yes Gene who could not help but put stuff up about Wingnut. Bye”

This brings us to the ‘NEW’ LateNiteHams web site and chat. I really do hope it comes off as planned! If they exclude the trouble makers (and you know who you are!), put artie’s ego on hold, get chat software that requires a valid email addie, set up some basic rules, and ‘monitor’ but don’t ‘censor’ it, I think it could be ‘fun’, especially for SWL’s (though they probably will not let moi in!). Isn’t fun what it’s supposed to be about???

The First Round Goes to Bill Crowell w6wbj!

On April 2, 2008, an Administrative Law Judge ordered the Enforcement Bureau to answer or object to all of the interrogatories filed by w6wbj. To the extent that they object or fail to answer, he can file a further motion to compel answers.

From the documents I have seen, it seems that the initial confusion that was generated by w6wbj in this filing, was due the procedures of the FCC contradicting themselves, and various people’s interpretations of this dichotomy.

In jest, for a while, Bill Crowell w6wbj was signing his communications as ‘upholding free speech for all hams’. But, it is NOT a joke, anytime anyone upholds freedom, in any sector, on any level, we all benefit.